| Where Nature Meets Science - 02.27.05 |
| submitter: | Smart Set |
| location: | Alperton, London, UK |
| This base was outside a place called Vitabiotics. |
| category: | Tainted |
| comments: | 44 |
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| wim commented on 01.13.11 | | now that was a good concertation |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.17.05 | | Rebecca, I take all your points. Ultimately, I suppose it boils down to our individual "first impressions" when we read the word "trace". Glad you liked my alliteration - it was "U.S. confusion" in my first draft. See, I don't just throw these comments together :¬} |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.16.05 | | Well a tablet is what came to mind, hence my confusion. I think trace as a search term is somewhat archaic on this side of the pond, at least it is for me. Wimisms do make things more interesting though. ;) |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.16.05 | | Dan, I too have traced a drawing using a tablet, but why in the wide world of sports would wim do this with the comic-book mattress pics once he had found them? Do you see what I mean? Surely he would just send them in as usual. That's why it seems odd to me that you interpreted "trace" in this way, knowing that it could also broadly mean "look for" etc.
Plus, I think wim was deliberately using the word in a "wim-sical" way to suggest the haphazard fashion in which he stores stuff on his laptop. |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.16.05 | | That is trace as referring to search. Trace may very well be a function within a graphics program. |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.16.05 | | SS I don't know about you but I don't have nor have I ever seen a "trace" function, button or icon on a computer. However, I have traced a drawing on my computer with my digitizing tablet. Hence the reason for my conclusion. |
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| FOD40UK commented on 03.16.05 | | I'd just look for them! |
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| Rebecca commented on 03.16.05 | Syllabic Sketch, I think your "happen across" argument is accurate, but I was trying to find a way of conveying a find that is not finding, or a search that is not searching, according to the explanation given below. And surely tracing something does imply controlled, methodical searching? More so than any of these other words, I would say. So it doesn't make sense to me that one would use "trace" to indicate the act of locating something within a state of disorganization. I would easily say "find" even when I didn't know exactly what I was looking for, wouldn't you? Also I think we typically use "trace" within a limited number of phrases, such "tracing a call" or "without a trace" for example. Since we were talking about drawings, the immediate meaning that came to mind was that of drawing using thin paper, but confusingly because one does not do that on laptops (unless there's some new graphics program I don't know about). Make sense?
Wim, I'm not thinking this particular discussion has much to do with the differences between American and English language, although I could be quite mistaken.
On another note entirely, I'm quite pleased with the alliteration of "Californian Confusion." Bravo.
*whew* |
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| wim commented on 03.16.05 | | I am happy tn notice the difference between both sides of transatlantic modern gaelic, we flemish speaking Belgians have the same difficulty with our Dutch speaking people in Holland. |
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| Semantic Set commented on 03.16.05 | | Let me confess myself a tad puzzled by the Californian confusion surrounding wim's use of the word "trace". In the context he used it I had no difficulty understanding that he meant to find/locate/search for/track down the pics on his laptop. If he "happened across" them, that would surely mean he found them accidentally while not intending to do so. The meaning of "trace" as in copying something through translucent paper is not, to this mattresser anyway, an obvious association to make in this context. It's a bizarre one. :-) |
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| Rebecca commented on 03.16.05 | | Also I think "trace" has a strong implication of methodical, controlled searching. Perhaps "happen across" better describes what you are saying. |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.16.05 | | PB I was thinking about SS. |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.16.05 | | Ah trace as in, SGT Mulrooney trace this call. |
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| Rebecca commented on 03.16.05 | | Very articulate explanation. The only problem with that is that "trace" also means to draw something through transparent paper, so it sounds almost like you were drawing the mattresses yourself! Hence, confusing. |
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| wim commented on 03.16.05 | | Let me try again. Finding has to do with searching. Without search you cannot find. Searching is methodic because you think you know what you are looking for, meaning you stop searching once you have found. In my life things happen, I cannot search in a controlled way, because I do not know what I am looking for. This time I knew, so it is not searching and finding, but tracing |
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| Rebecca commented on 03.16.05 | | A more easily understood way of saying that would be to say you need to "find" them on the laptop. The word "trace" was confusing us. This has been a public service announcement. |
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| psychobabble commented on 03.16.05 | | I used to know a pathologist - said her job was dead boring! |
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| psychobabble commented on 03.15.05 | | Hey DVD - Acton 'girls' where???? |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | feeling any better? |
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| ART-chitect commented on 03.15.05 | | my father wants to submit the cartoonpics again, so they aren't on the site yet, so he has to trace them on his laptop because he puts things in places where they don't belong and he obviously gave them some strange name and that makes the search very difficult...all above is asuming that I know my dad, which I may say |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.15.05 | Maybe I wasn't clear.
Trace???? |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | my plants have to be selfsupporting and fetch their own water. I am off for a few minutes, talking a walk home from my office and grab a bite |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.15.05 | | I mean to trace the photos on your laptop using hi-tech cutting-edge forensic techniques as seen on TV. No, I'm not a pathologist, although I once worked in Plant Pathology. |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | what do you mean? Are you pathologist? My best friend is, she once was a good doctor too, but now her patients have waited too long |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.15.05 | | Want me to call in Forensic? |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | I am rather messy with things and chaotic, so yes, trace |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.15.05 | | trace???? |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | if I can trace them on my laptop, I try to give them a second chance |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.15.05 | | They didn't tell you why? Sometimes I don't understand, but on things like this they tend to reject similar ones submitted at once. You may have better luck sprinkling them in over time. I'm sure they are getting more picky with the flood of matts going from the Acton boys & girls. I remembered several print submissions from you and your son, so I just went to your showcases and looked in the media category. |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | I know, but why exceptions? This one in a modern strip, I was talking classic things, out of the early 1940's. By the way, how did you find so quick? First time you are on line with me |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.15.05 | | wim what do you call this? When the masters reject something they give you a reason. Are you saying they are out to get you?? I just had a Simpsons one rejected because the matt wasn't on the street. BTW the Simpsons is an animated TV show. |
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| wim commented on 03.15.05 | | everyone his gimmick. I am amased by the fact that strips out of US comics can be accepted, and known european strips not. In a desperate mood I once went through all our " suske en wiske"s, onmy to find out the proud masters did not accept them, where things out of the simpsons are accepted. Art is very strict on bases as well, not wanting to do them. I can only notice thet over here in Belgium we don't have those boxy british things |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.15.05 | | I know, Dan. I am considering my position on bases. Cue punchline... |
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| DVD Dan commented on 03.15.05 | | SS you are free to not submit bases yourself. I long ago stopped submitting matts inside garages and new mattresses in/out of a mattress store. |
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| Smart Set commented on 03.15.05 | | I must admit I don't like bedbases much, but they are accepted, so I submit them. If I were in charge of streetmattress.com I would proscribe them. |
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| Mattress Mutt commented on 03.14.05 | | I love the sign "Where Nature Meets Science". Do you think they are referring to the stains on the mattress? |
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| Vogon3 commented on 03.14.05 | | they are firm they are just covered in the same fabric |
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| wim commented on 03.14.05 | | on a firm like bedbase, not on a soft mod thing (I am from a generation where one chose between mods and rockers, and I was both) |
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| Vogon3 commented on 03.14.05 | | Do you just put your matts on the floor |
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| wim commented on 03.14.05 | | not those things, no |
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| Vogon3 commented on 03.14.05 | | Art are you saying you don't have bases for your beds |
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| wim commented on 03.14.05 | | Son, I had more or less the same idea, they submit funny looking things that we don't know, mattress lookalikes on small wheels, we would not dare to submit (because we do not have them over here) |
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| ART-chitect commented on 03.14.05 | | otherwise I'm sure you have a perfect logical explanation where you can convince me of the opposite, my mind is open... |
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| ART-chitect commented on 03.14.05 | | and again SS, you made something clear for me...I always wondered why you in the UK have more result in matthunting than we Belgians do but you have a sleeping culture where you have a base and a matt, so every sleeping place has a double possibilty in ending as a streetmattress while in Belgium that's only one...so you have to double every Belgian submission to compete with the UK |
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